Excuse Me, but Your Ignorance Is Showing

So my usually easy-going son comes home in a huff today from his last class at the university.  Gives me a peck on the cheek and then pulls out a textbook and says, “Mom, what do you think of this?”

He begins to read it to me (I’m including the article here so you too can judge for yourself):  Here goes…

“You’ve been invited to a community awards ceremony at a local church of Pacific Island immigrants that is to honor students from your school. You gladly accept, arrive a few minutes early, and are ushered to a seat of honor on the stage.  After an uncomfortable (to you) wait of over an hour, the ceremony begins, and the students proudly file to the stage to receive their awards.”

I’m about to tell my son that this disregard for punctuality is one of those things that I find absolutely infuriating, that as far as I’m concerned, operating on so called “Samoan-time” is just downright rude and shows no class whatsoever, etc etc.  But apparently that isn’t the offending paragraph.  So I hold my tongue while my son continues reading.

“…The children all go back and sit down in the audience again, and the meeting continues with several more items on the agenda.  The kids are fine for a while, but get bored and start to fidget.  Fidgeting and whispering turn into poking, prodding, and open chatting.  You become a little anxious at the disruption, but none of the other adults appear to even notice, so you ignore it too.  Soon several of the children are up and out of their seats, strolling about the back and sides of the auditorium.  All adult faces continue looking serenely up at the speaker on the stage. Then the kids start playing tag, running circles around the seating area, and yelling gleefully. No adult response-you are amazed, and struggle to resist the urge to quiet the children.  Then some of the kids get up onto the stage, run around the speaker, flick the lights on and off, and open and close the curtain! Still nothing from Islander parents who seem either unaware or unconcerned about the children’s behavior!  You are caught in the middle of a conflict of cultures-yours and the Pacific Islanders’…What do you do in this situation?”

Well, I immediately see why my son had smoke coming out of his ears, I too was now practically foaming at the mouth!  But I’ll get to my reaction in a little bit. 

Back to my son – he goes on to tell me that he felt so angry as he was listening to this being read in class.  He was about to say something when behind him, he heard a girl say in response to the question, “Well, obviously I’m going to go talk to the parents because apparently they don’t know how to raise their kids right.”  (Dang, I wish I’d been in that class during that discussion).  Ok, ok, back to my son.

He turned around and said, “Excuse me, you have no idea what you’re talking about.  I’m Samoan, and I can tell you that there isn’t a Samoan parent, or another Pacific Islander parent that would let their child behave in such a manner.   I can tell you that my parents raised me to be respectful and to behave and I can also tell you that knowing what I know of Pacific Islanders because I am one, there is no Pacific Islander parent under the face of the sun that would tolerate these kinds of behaviors from their kids.  If anything, that kind of behavior would have been nipped immediately either by the parent giving them “the look” or even a smack right then and there if they don’t get the message.”

Of course I was glad he spoke up, and oh how my hands itched to smack that stupid stupid girl.  The nerve, the absolute gall, the total ignorance of some people completely amazes me!

We talked for a little while longer.  I told my son that I completely agree with what he said in class.  We don’t let our kids get out of hand, if anything we err too much the other way.  I can’t picture a Samoan or Pacific Islander parent that lets their kid behave like a hooligan during such an event.  It’s not Samoan kids or Pacific Islander kids that throw tantrums and fits, it’s not Pacific Islander kids that tell their parents to “shut, the f*** up.  It’s not Pacific Islander parents that let their children walk all over them.  It’s not Pacific Islander parents that let their children do as they please.  No sirreeee!

By the way, according to the references in the text, the above excerpt was adapted from Winitzky, 1994 who states that the invitation and the events (described above) actually happened to one educator.

Since my son has already given this clueless girl a piece of his mind, I’ll direct this towards Winitzky.  Winitzky, your scenario is crap.  Check your sources because there is no way that a Pacific Islander parent would fail to act in the kind of situation you described.  No Pacific Islander parent would continue to just sit back “looking serenely up at the speaker on the stage” while their children are wreaking havoc during an important ceremony.  Unlike some cultures, Pacific Islanders do know what it means to have respect.  We come out of the womb breathing respect, for crying out loud.  A conflict of cultures?  That’s a good one.  I guess the western culture (for lack of a better term) is known for respect and decorum.  Now that I think about it, why respect is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of western culture, NOT!  What a joke!  Something is not right in this picture, and one of you (you or your source) isn’t telling the whole story.  The only thing that this excerpt show is an ignorance on your part to the true essence of Pacific Islander culture.  If you are going to write about another culture, please make sure you really do understand it first.  And you call yourself an educator? Shame, shame, shame on you!

10 Responses

  1. Cut the histrionics!

    Samoa culture pretty much ended when the missionaries arrived and told everybody they were savages, Jesus was the new god and everybody ought to be on a guilt trip if they wanted to be saved.

    Go back to pre-christian values of the Pacific and live happily ever after

    From Pago

    JW

  2. Histrionics John?
    That’s not histrionics, that’s a seriously pissed off Samoan woman!
    Now if I were to say that you John are a bloody moron, that would be histrionics because I’m deliberately saying it to get a rise out of you. But I can’t call you a bloody moron because according to your myspace page, you are a 64 year old male which makes you a couple of decades older than me, and I was brought up in this culture that you claim is nonexistent to always respect my elders.
    So you appear to be a rather dull looking white guy who now lives in American Samoa where you are the owner and operator of Calumet Industrial Services, as well as an expert on Samoan culture and the origins of Polynesians. Interesting!
    Believe it or not, I’m well aware of the impact the missionaries (aka the white man) had on the people of the South Pacific. It’s the same story everywhere else they colonized or visited. Yes, Samoan culture was changed because of this contact and some part of it was not necessarily for the better. But you are way off when you say that Samoan culture ended with the missionaries. Changed, evolved, different maybe, but not ended!
    So John, thanks for visiting my blog and just so we’re clear, this is my blog, my journal, my point of view, my opinions. You don’t have to agree with it, you don’t have to like it, heck you don’t even have to read it. How’s that for histrionics?

  3. Well said thesamoanwoman.

    As for the offending paragraph, I too was shocked at the scenario. It definitely wouldn’t have been my church. As a kid we would’ve been whacked around the ears before our bums even left the seat. Well done on your son standing up and saying those things.

  4. Yea……respect is the very first thing that a Samoan parent would teach their children! Like the Samoan proverb says “E iloa le tama a le tagata i ana tu ma ana aga” In English it means Dont be an ass….but be respectful and show the world that you are of royalty by the way you are!!! lol… respect is the main thing that is required of all and when we respect others, others will respect us…after all, it’s what God would want all of the people in this world to do….Respect one another. SAMOANS, GIRD UP YOUR LOINS, RESPECT YOURSELVES AND YOUR CULTURE….GOD MADE YOU TO BE UNIQUE AND SPECIAL!!!! peace!

  5. IA MAGAIA FO’I GEI MEA FAAPEA E KALAPEPELO MAI I’I….IA UA LELEI IA POO AI EA E OGA LEGAI MEA…AFAI OSE MEA KAUFA’AVALEA, IA E LEAI, O LEA OU KE KAUKALA SA’O AKU A’U I LE KA UA O LE OLAGA O LE SAMOA MA KULAGA E KAKAU OGA IAI….IA MALU LE SAMI I SE FA’AFOFOGA PE’A FAI UA SALA SE UPU, AE IA KAUKUAGA MA OUKOU KAMA FAGAU A LE AKUGU’U A’OA’OGA KA UA MA LE MAKAGOFIE A O KAKOU KUA’A E KAUSIGIO UMA IAI LE LALOLAGI AKOA….SOIFUA MA IA MAGUIA OUKOU UMA OE GA FAGAGAU MAI I MAKUA SAMOA………………..

  6. Malo lava Rita & Niusila,
    Fa’afetai mo fautuaga manaia. Ua lelei fo’i gei mea kakou ke kalakalanoa ai i luga o le internet:-).

  7. Ioe…faafekai lava ia ke oe le mafige i le makaupu kaua ua kalagoaiga. O mea faapea e iloa ai le Samoa mogi e lava le a’oa’oga ma le malamalama i le mea e ka’u o le Samoa. I hope all these dark-skinned palagis will come to a realization that when they fall hard….no one else is there but a Samoan will be!! That’s how deep and committed we are as true Samoans at heart!…

  8. Winitzky, you are one ignorant *** with the audacity to label our culture based on our children’s behavior. If you lived in Samoa you’d know that Samoan children are as free spirited as any other child regardless what creed and color. Children will be children depending on how much they can get away with – especially away from their parent’s view or at least away from spanking-reach. The story would have been different if the parent’s all got up and beat their children to keep them quiet. Then it would be the issue of Samoan Abusive Parenting. Ask any principle of any school how many times a student body event is delayed because it involved teachers rallying up students, crap happens and sometimes it’s inevitable. What is there to say about your culture Mr. Winitzky when you raise children who dress up in dark overcoats, carrying shotguns/rifles and shoot teachers and children in schools? Is the parent’s fault? The kids? Their culture?……My thoughts? Well, I am caught in the middle of a conflict of cultures-my Pacific Islanders’ and yours….Use your bigoted labels elsewhere!

  9. As a young Samoan woman growing up in today’s time, I have to agree with you entirely. Time definitely has changed, but the fact that respect is the greatest attribute drilled into the Polynesian children still stands. I’m 22 and was lucky enough to have been raised by my grandparents who were the typical Samoan parents. Disrespect of any sort was never an option. As far as the article by Winitzky, the only thing that can be said, is that it is always easier to point the finger. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, just because they have that option, doesn’t necessarily mean they know what they’re talking about.

    This was my first time ever participating in a blog, and it is refreshing to know that we as Polynesian people can engage in positive activities and are able to voice ourselves in matters that do matter..

    thanks=]

  10. Being married to a Tongan with 5 children now all grown up, I (a palangi) have been around the Pacific island people for almost 30 years and I certainly can attest not only to the “Samoan time/Tongan time issue but the children’s behaviors depicted in this article. I’ve attended many a luau/gathering showing unruly children. That’s not to say that any child regardless of ethnicity could not behave in the same manner. Also note that the form of discipline I’ve witnessed at times in response to children’s naughty behavior has been downright abusive. Pinching, grabbing and beating do not change this behavior! In my opinion it only shows the child that the person who should protect them(and love them) the most from physical and emotional harm, is not capable. The respect that children may show only comes from submission

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